How is jesus the word of god

II Tim. I Thess. At this point I think it becomes clearer that to pit Jesus as the Word of God incarnate against the Bible as the Word of God written is a false choice. So then, is Jesus the Word of God?

Yes and Amen. Should we still speak of the Bible as the Word of God? Of course we should—Jesus told us to. Further, is vulgate Canon? Are there translations of the Bible that are not trustworthy? I know of one or two translations out of sixty-plus English translations that are not trustworthy. John For God so loved world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John For God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son so that anyone who believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

Should God and Jesus be capitalized? Of course. All three translations say the same thing. Acts Then Peter said unto them, Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Notice all three translation say that in order to have your sins forgiven you must repent and be baptized. Some deny that repentance and baptism are essential for sins to be forgiven. Men are not going to be lost because of faulty translations.

Men are lost because they refuse to believe in the translations they trust. There is a reason why this comma is placed there.

Repent and be baptized is NOT a compound predicate. Repent and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost is. Both Repent and Receive is Second Person plural. God does not want us to mess with the innocent children apparently for things they have no control over. Instead Jesus would be JHVH speaking gently as a meek man or a man with strength having a way with God the Father but not using that power to destroy folk at that time.

Matthew 24 talks of that short generation, though of forty years, but in that at the commensement of the generation at the rapture of the church age saints to the seven years afterwards when Jesus amongst multiple signs FROM HEAVEN and in heaven comes to earth to set up the thousand year kingdom. Below is the conclusion to a fascinating account of the formation of the canon of the Bible.

It is a must read! Strangely, this is essentially where the story ends. It is most curious that there was never any pronouncement by any central authority such as the Pope in all of Christian history as to which books belonged in the Bible, until A. This pronouncement excluded Laodiceans and included Hebrews, thus effectively ratifying the 27 books that had been the staple of orthodox opinion since the 4th century A.

M This no doubt arose because for the first time in almost a thousand years scholars were once again starting to question the authenticity of certain books in the canon, for example the authorship of Hebrews. No freethinker he. No one can trust the opinions of such a man. Nevertheless, the canon of Florence was still not enforced by threat of excommunication until the canon was made an absolute article of faith at the Council of Trent in A. Almost all the Protestant churches followed suit within the next century with essentially identical conclusions M , dissenting only by excluding the OT apocrypha held as canonical by the Catholics.

But it is worth adding an interesting irony: for with the Reformation the history of canonization came almost full circle. Luther wrote prefaces on the books of his Bible, and ordered the books consciously in descending degrees of credit M , and his entire scheme reveals a pervasive criterion: everything that agrees with Paul and preaches Christ is a priori true and to be held in highest esteem, while everything else is to be doubted.

And he repeats the argument from fatigue: though he explains why certain books like Hebrews and Jude are to be doubted—namely, they contradict the teachings of Paul—he goes on to declare that he does not want to remove them from so venerable a collection. Thus, not only dogmatic presupposition, but mere tradition wins the canon—not objective scholarship.

The irony is that Luther is almost a twin of the heretic Marcion, who was, if you recall, the first man in Christian history to propose a canon. And it is well known that Luther was rabidly anti-Jewish—as was Marcion. Though the two men differed on many key points, in a small sense the Reformation effectively re-launched the old Marcionite heresy, at the very end of the process of canonization that Marcion had begun. The scriptures testify of Jesus so that we may come to Him. Many read the scriptures but never come to Him.

Others come but only one time. Not know about Him in our intellect. The Scripture s are wonderful to relate to as we follow course of the brothers of that era however the word of God was the son a dwelled among us , died resurrected and translated to heaven and sent us the comforter the holy spirit that we may too if accept have his live word in us also. God desires to speak to us as he did with Jesus which is considered word not just scripted but spoken directly to us.

Christ is the Word of God. Elevating scripture to the same level and using whatever arguments to support that is another form of idolatry. Sola scriptura has divided Christianity to the point where there are between and 30, denominations. It has damaged the Church. Focus on John instead. It accuses…it exposes…it drives to Christ and creates faith. No matter if Paul said it…or if Herod would have said it.

Otherwise, great piece. The Bible is the archive of all the testimony of what is the mind of God in that which He desires us to know, and the schema of interpretation has no theological name I recall in that it appears to be underdeveloped but in TWO corollaries it is found on the lips of both Moses and Jesus and a passel of other apostles, disciples, prophets and other Holy Spirit gifted or inspired writers in about the following forms.

Corollary One — In the mouth of one witness shall no man be put to death. Corollary Two — In the mouth of witnesses, two or three shall a matter be established or a man put to death for a capital sin. Doctrines that are determined by this law intuitively used by those otherwise under impressed with the Biblical statements of these could be the TRINITY a doctrine with a Latinized name rather than a Bible name in that this doctrine is not normally stated but is developed by using two or more scriptures to develop it and the RAPTURE another Latinized name for a doctrine not stated directly with a name but understood by comparing two or more scriptures.

In fact Doctrine is NOT usually found established throughout all of scripture but are individual testimonies given by the prophets to which we with one of the several remaining gifts of the Spirit left the churches today called the discernment of spirits, which is NOT a gift to find bad spirits from good spirits but the words of the witnesses in the Bible examined by a single judge, confirm with our examination.

Paul seems to be the one first beginning to see to putting spoken tradition into words in the New Testament. Joseph seems to be the one that Moses first indicated being aware of the concept of two or three things establishing a matter when he interpreted the twofold dream of Pharaoh, saying that the dream is actually one but that God in doubling it twice established the matter and it is sure and bound to come to pass.

But the first doubled testimony is actually that of the Creation accounts, some folk ridicule, and that of the Flood. Paul throughout his 1 Cor. This last is that referenced by Paul in 1 Cor. Paul puts a scientific tinge to it when he equates this law with the three dimensional interpretation of the testimony of two eyes as an analysis of the fruit of two witnesses of any type, prophecy, revelation or whatever, in 1 Cor.

Jesus is the incarnate word of God. The father God honored his word above all his names Psalms None of the words of God is spoken in void. It accomplished its purpose and returns to the father Isaiah Isaiah who prophesied about the birth of Jesus has also mentioned it in Isaiah particularly verse 8. This is the reason why he is also called the son of God! Because God created everything with his word, we also read that God created everything through Jesus John ; Hebrews ; Colossians We read in John that the father has handed over the authority to judge to Jesus!

Jesus was sent to this earth to fulfill some actions in this earth decided by the father Jesus does not do anything on his own will John 21; John ; John ; John , 50; John ,38; John ; John ,15; John ; John ; Hebrews ; John Father God has given authority over everything to Jesus John ; Colossians ; John ; John ; I Peter ; Ephesians — 23 but after Jesus defeats all the enemies he will hand back the authority to father God I Corinthians — Then it is spoken out.

This is the very reason Jesus said his father is greater than him John This is also the reason why Jesus said he does not know the hour of his coming. Because Jesus is the word of the father, the word is realized only when it is articulated. That does not make Jesus any inferior to the father God. The relationship between Jesus and the father is also similar.

The Bible is the inspired word of God. The Bible is the word of God written down by the inspiration of the holy spirit for our benefit II Timothy , This is why the Bible says we are born again through the word of God I Peter Carson Becoming Conversant with the Emerging Church. That was said by John. It seems to me that if both Jesus and the Bible are called the Word of God, the problem should be how to avoid equating the Bible with Jesus himself.

The making of the difference is rubbish. What you have clearly is that the Bible is the testimony of the mind of God of all that which He desires us to know. Perhaps you could express yourself more clearly? The Bible has the authority of Christ. I guess I was addressing the thought that your reply had hinted at, more than what you might have believed. However, I was actually trying to show that where ever you saw in the Old Testament, the word of the LORD to this or that prophet, It was Jesus who was doing the talking.

Sometimes He spoke of Himself, sometimes He was speaking for His Father, and it really gets tight sometimes to actually determine who is speaking to or of whom without a Hebrew Bible before you. You may already know these things, but it was a point I wanted to press. The other thing is probably found in a post I made further up on this list or earlier , is the underdeveloped doctrine that the Bible is actually an archive of testimony, containing actually a limited number of real doctrines.

Usually folk seek a verse, one verse or so or even several passages in context and presume that it is teaching doctrine, especially in the prophecies, not knowing that the Bible schema of interpretion is that in the mouth of two or three witnesses or scriptural testimonies shall a matter be established. How this Schema of interpretation in two corollaries is found throughout the scriptures without too much comment by teachers of the words is startling and without this knowledge becomes a genesis of much error we know of today.

Sorry If I worried you a bit…but I hope we are square now. James, you were on the right track. Finally, let it start to sink in that there was NO bible when the scriptures were being written. No compilation of books and none of the writers knew the others were writing. You were right James, Christianity is elevating the bible to a place of godhood equal to God, the Word and the Holy Spirit.

Scripture is certainly inspired by God and can reveal the words of God. Furthermore, the Holy Spirit who testifies about Christ and reveals the thoughts of the Father towards us, can certainly use scriptures to reveal Logos to us. All that to say, I am glad God is not limited to revealing himself only through his written words, but that he can reveal Himself including Christ through nature, dreams, visions, etc.

I would imagine those who came into an awareness of and relationship with God through non-literary means are as well. Congratulations on making things confusing. I have a head ache after reading all this apologetic dung. Only a fool would equate scripture to Jesus Christ, The living God. The bible is dead scripture. Scripture is scripture. Scripture is not the word of God. Seek the gift of The Holy Spirit. Jesus saved me from my sins literally over night in Feb I was saved from a 25 year pornography addiction, a 20 year daily pot smoking addiction and my life long tv addiction literally over night.

Praise Jesus. Quit all this foolish non sense of apologetics, humble yourselves, and get your focus on Jesus and preaching Jesus. Jesus alone is The way, The truth and The life. You use a phrase from the fourth gospel to fire some broadside at Scripture and denigrate its witness. Absolutely brilliant. At last, a true reformer! Ian, I assume your comment is geared toward me. Theological FAQs [? Multi-Verse Retrieval x. En dash not Hyphen.

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Blue Letter Bible. Login To Your Account. Check your email for password retrieval Enter Your Email or Username. Login [? God spoke the universe into being. The Apostle John presents Jesus as the eternal Word, who took on flesh and blood so that we could behold God's glory. Around the globe, gigantic radio telescopes point to the heavens for any intelligent signal from outer space. In Jesus, we have God's heaven-to-Earth message.

At times, God must be wondering, "Is anyone listening? And now because of 'the Word' and his love, we have a chance to have an eternal life in heaven. He wants us to spread the Word of him to everyone. Jesus Christ didn't promise a rose garden to those who believe in him as the way, the truth and the life. He told his disciples to expect hatred from those who reject him.

The Apostle John presents Jesus as a great light entering a dark world. His light would shine so brightly that the opposition and lies of those living in darkness would not be able to overcome him John Jesus is the truth, and God, and the Word. Words can hurt or heal. They are meaningful, but not all words are trustworthy.

Fortunately for believers, Scripture is trustworthy because it is affirmed by Jesus. Candice Lucey is a freelance writer from British Columbia, Canada, where she lives with her family. Find out more about her here. Share this. Candice Lucey Contributing Writer 9 Mar.